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After looking around BrainyQuote for awhile at lots of different political quotes and about a lot of different subjects, I looked up Andrea Dworkin.
Mainly becuase subbes mentioned her the other day and Gates was the one person who said something negative about her. So I was curious. I knew who she was, but not being a fan of most feminist writings I'm not really familiar with her particular brand of writing.

"Women, for centuries not having access to pornography and now unable to bear looking at the muck on the supermarket shelves, are astonished. Women do not believe that men believe what pornography says about women. But they do. From the worst to the best of them, they do."

Now... this may just be taken horribly out of context. And I have as many issues with how women are portrayed in porn as I do with strippers, if not more. But to say that ALL men, every single one of them, believe that women really are whatever is said about them in porn is not just far too broad, but really derogatory. I realize that she got off on being controversial. I realize that the lack of a voice for so long caused many feminists to scream constantly, even when they had nothing to say. But how did this kind of shit "add to the dialog"?

"Only when manhood is dead - and it will perish when ravaged femininity no longer sustains it - only then will we know what it is to be free."

"Money speaks, but it speaks with a male voice."

"Men know everything - all of them - all the time - no matter how stupid or inexperienced or arrogant or ignorant they are."

"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership."

Wow. Preach it, Martin Luther King... except not. Not at all.
It's nice that she wanted to prove that she could be equal to man in every way. Equally brainless, ignorant, arrogant, self righteous, and demeaning. Way to sink to the level of the thing you claim to despise.

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punkalicia
Apr. 11th, 2005 09:54 pm (UTC)
i've only read a little Dworkin, and i didn't care much for it, however, i know her shit is SO EASY to take out of context.

I think this site was interesting in talking about her work:
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/LieDetect.html

maddening
Apr. 11th, 2005 10:04 pm (UTC)
I really hope there is a greater context. I know that this site doesn't really put the sources up... which I don't like. I was just really shocked by these things. Marriage is just an extention of rape? HUH? Thanks for the link I will look into it.

mjfgates
Apr. 12th, 2005 07:11 am (UTC)
Nope, that pretty much is the context. Dworkin is the prototype for people who spell it "womyn" because, well, goodness forbid they acknowledge any similarity between genders. Feh, and again, feh.
maddening
Apr. 12th, 2005 12:22 pm (UTC)
She is, apparently, a former prostitute and battered wife. She says her goal is to speak for those women. She's also said that she thinks battered wives should be able to kill their batterers, but then also said things about how all violence comes from man.

I didn't see any of the "womyn" stuff, but I did see a lot of shit that could have easiy been written by Valerie Solanis.
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