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We saw Halloween last night. It was very very very good. REALLY good. Much better than I expected. It makes the original feel safe and thin by comparison. And not just because of the time period.

Apparently we are in the minority. American horror fans like schlock 80s shit, pointless gore porn like Saw and Hostel, or the most repetitive remade dumbed down americanized remakes of movies that worked in their original Asian contexts. To me those things are pretty fucking pointless unless I'm specifically looking for something I can laugh at. Believe me - my B horror collection is full and healthy.

I've seen complaints about this movie ranging from the fact that there was too much plot (oh my god - an explanation on the MAKING of a serial killer and it has nothing to do with CSI), too little plot or plot holes (it's pretty straightforward and most of the stuff they claim as a hole was explained and they just didn't understand it or they missed it), or that it was actually too different from the original. Because remakes should just be a shot for shot retelling of the original. That hasn't been done a billion times.

Unfortunately very few self described horror fans I've seen commenting about this are actually into what I would define as horror. They like action flicks with blood. None of these people would appreciate Giallo. None of them would honestly feel that Hell House or the original House on Haunted Hill were honestly frightening, suspenseful, etc. Because "nothing happens" in those movies or because, like in Giallo, you're required to suspend your disbelief and look at it all on a purely nightmare level.

People WANT to hate this movie. Because it's a remake. Because they've convinced themselves that John Carpenter is some un-fuckwithable icon. Because it's Rob Zombie. Because they honestly believe they know what they're talking about when over and over again they point out utterly incorrect "facts" about movies (especially the original Halloween). Because they're frustrated film students who insist that their by the book standards weren't upheld (fucking ridiculous ranting about the 180 rule). Or because they just want to be too cool for the room.

And If any of them were just saying "I didn't like it becuase..." that would be fine. I totally respect you just not digging it for whatever reasons. But don't come at it from an authoritative "It was a bad movie becuase..." stance - especially when you're a clueless douche about the genre you're claiming this movie doesn't count as.


OH - and the "if you like (or don't like) XXX you aren't a true XXXX" shit is outta hand. According to the nintendo loving doucebags I've talked to - I'm not a "real gamer" if I haven't gotten way into and played the fuck out of pretty much the entire nintendo catalog. According to the hardcore geeks I know I'm not a "real computer person" if I use Windows. And according to slasher idiots, I'm not a "real horror fan" if I liked this remake of Halloween. Honestly, if they're setting the example for those titles I'm pleased to be counted out.

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luvrhino
Sep. 2nd, 2007 06:04 am (UTC)
I'm a real asshole
According to the nintendo loving doucebags I've talked to - I'm not a "real gamer" if I haven't gotten way into and played the fuck out of pretty much the entire nintendo catalog. According to the hardcore geeks I know I'm not a "real computer person" if I use Windows. And according to slasher idiots, I'm not a "real horror fan" if I liked this remake of Halloween.

I always suspected you were imaginary. Glad for the confirmation.
maddening
Sep. 2nd, 2007 05:19 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm a real asshole
Who would make up something like me?
luvrhino
Sep. 2nd, 2007 06:03 pm (UTC)
I love playing softball
Charlie Kaufman, Jhonen Vasquez, or Samuel Taylor Coleridge during an opium dream.
luvrhino
Sep. 2nd, 2007 06:03 pm (UTC)
Alternative Answer
Me. Because i like imagining how to make the world a better place.
maddening
Sep. 2nd, 2007 09:02 pm (UTC)
Re: Alternative Answer
Sarcasm followed by a big "awww". You've gotten sappy in your old age. :)
luvrhino
Sep. 2nd, 2007 11:54 pm (UTC)
ken's Cassandra-esque curse
I've always been accused of sappiness...it's part of my burden of only speaking the truth and then trying to write about wonderful things.
maddening
Sep. 3rd, 2007 03:32 am (UTC)
Pull the other one, pal. It's got bells on.
Watch it now, you're gonna use it all up in one post and then just be stuck correcting my grammar for the rest of the year.

luvrhino
Sep. 3rd, 2007 05:00 am (UTC)
I still maintain that i hardly ever correct your grammar
Insomuch as your splendiferousness is infinite, so is my capacity for rendering it into words...words that, tragically, are laughably inadequate for the monumental task at hand.
maddening
Sep. 3rd, 2007 06:55 am (UTC)
I maintain lots of stuff. Doesn't mean anyone believes me.
What the *fuck* got into you all of a sudden?

And you don't correct my grammar that much at all. It's just the character traits you've been saddled with. The grammar correcting, persnickety, pedantic Ken. Just a stereotype of you. Not half accurate and overly simplistic. :)
luvrhino
Sep. 3rd, 2007 01:34 pm (UTC)
renewable energy source
Ok, i'll settle down now since i seem to be freaking you out. It's all your fault. You gave me an ideal setup to be treacly nice with the "Who would make up something like me?" line. Then, i got on a giant (sweet) roll of trying to one-up my previous statement.

It's the same phenomenon that caused me to go on extended, increasingly vociferous anti-Andy or anti-Alli threads long past to the point they had been reduced to ashy residue. The laws pertaining to the conservation of momentum don't apply to my hyperbabble. When not acted upon an outside force, the unchecked perpetual motion of my self-catalyzing passion approaches the infinite.
maddening
Sep. 3rd, 2007 05:54 pm (UTC)
Re: renewable energy source
Heh, I wasn't freaked out just thinking that I must have missed something.

Hah. You're ridiculous. I thought you just really disliked Andy and Alli. Most of us did. They also had the greater tendency to say incredibly stupid things and try to build a whole "reasonable" response around their own warped little world views. So it was easy to just continue to kick their feet out and watch them get back up and try again and again and again.

You were always really really into that, though. heh.

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