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yeah. He's right.
I really shouldn't have spent all those years sitting on my ass eating fast food grease burgers and ho hos and... well.. wait.
I have never really been a fan of fast food, mostly vegetarian for most of my life, and as a kid (the time period when I was *quite* the butterball... I was 250lbs on a 5'6" frame when I graduated high school) I was a massive tom boy.
I didn't sit on my ass and watch tv or play video games.
I wasn't a lazy person.
I didn't eat a lot.
I've eaten like a bird my whole life.

Oh but wait... what do *I* know?
I'm sick.
I have an illness.
I'm a disgusting slob of a human being.

Skinny boys who's metabolisms haven't flopped over on them yet amuse me.


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Jan. 30th, 2002 11:46 am (UTC)
directed to who ever wrote this: http://www.livejournal.com/talkpost.bml?itemid=21943551

so, wait.

if you are 'fat', that means you are a bad person?

sounds like somone needs to wake the fuck up and stop complaining about a pointless subject. if fat people gross you out, that's your problem, not the fat person's. mabey the overweight people like to be big. i bet you never thought of that, did you? now, dont get me wrong. i'm not 'over wieght' nor do i like 'fat' people, but i have nothing against them. what the fuck is our society coming to? this kind of shit makes me want to put a bullet between the eyes of every animal that wont screw to save it's fucking species [i know, i know...]

who ever that person is dosent deserve to be called Human.

LIGHTEN UP, people, it's only fast fucking food. if some slob dies because they ate mcdonalds every single day, they thats their fault. but everyone else actually likes the way it tastes. why do you think so many americans are big??? because they like it.

jesus christ
Jan. 30th, 2002 12:15 pm (UTC)
I'm not going to bother finding the "fat chicks are sexy" entry and linking back to it... was it you that already did that a few weeks back?... or Alicia?... whoever.
Jan. 30th, 2002 12:28 pm (UTC)
I uh ... I didn't see any such entry... I dunno.

I'm not all offended.
I just think it's funny that the people who always stand up and talk about how being obese is a disease or how 'fat acceptance' isn't something to strive for are always stick thin chicks and stick thin guys who've never even *thought* about weight control in their own lives. Funny how the people on debate who bitch about blanket statements and stereotypes have no problem lumping everyone who doesn't fit into their 'good' end of their body type sorter into some sort of 'slob' category.
So they make all sorts of interesting assumptions.
I'm not saying that being overweight is a beautiful and glorious thing...
But considering that a doctor's scale says I should weigh 120lbs on my 5'6" frame... and at 50lbs over that I already have ribs showing and hip bones poking out, I have to say our standards ... and our obsession with the *number* is out of hand.

I think it's odd that the "beauty" he talks about is so based on modern concepts of what women should look like... a standard that only young teens and super models actually attain.
Usually at the cost of their menstrual cycles.

I was on a tear about this the other day anyway. My body type is THROUGHLY Rubenesque. I mean ... exactly that. That's what I look like. (my boobs are a lil bigger, though)
And yet, to this fuck wad, I'm sure I'm just another fat chick. ::shrug:::
Jan. 30th, 2002 12:36 pm (UTC)
I feel your pain about the doctor's scale. According to the BMI (body mass index) load of crap, I should weigh 107 pounds on my 5' frame. I currently weigh about 145, and while I have a bit of a belly, I am by no means obese. I have *gasp* muscles. Hell, I don't think I've weighed 107 since 3rd grade. The tables of what constitutes a person's ideal weight are really skewed.
Jan. 30th, 2002 02:27 pm (UTC)
Well, it was there, I remember it. Shoulda forwarded a link to Allison.

The "perfect weight" tables are a joke... Merlin would literally starve to death before she could hit the 130-something that the tables say she should be. (I'm not sure how much the tables say *I* should weigh.)

All that said, the world also does contain really hideously fat people, who should go get some fucking exercise.
Jan. 30th, 2002 10:00 pm (UTC)
Re: Send her home if she does not like it...
While I certainly don't share his fervor, I don't think absolutcalm was all that off. My perception wasn't so much that he was "anti-fat" as "anti-pro-fat". As in, he doesn't like the lifestyle that deliberately promotes it or special priviledges being meted out. He correctly that obesity (health-risk obesity, not just failure to meet the BMI standards) is a major health threat in America right now. If he was bashing individuals for being statistically overweight, or devaluing them as human beings, I didn't see it. Granted, I haven't thoroughly read all his comments. I just don't think it's as much an attack as people seem to be taking it.

But then, I'm one of the stereotypically scrawny boys who can sit on their ass all day slurping pudding with a hot caramel IV in my arm and still count my ribs. I will join in flaming the lad if he actually was calling anyone but a single movie character a slob, but it just doesn't seem like the absolutcalm I know.
Jan. 31st, 2002 09:52 am (UTC)
Re: Send her home if she does not like it...
he said that shallow hal over emphasised the love story because the object of affection was 'a disgusting slob of a human being.'

I guess it's a ... walk in my shoes... sort of thing.

Having been one of those "disgusting slobs of a human being," at one point in my life, I know what "slob" implies, I know how people look at you, I know how SCARED a person is to eat in public, walk around in public, even BE in public becuase of the way you're automatically treated.

I appreciate that he went out of his way to make sure that no one took this as a call to arms against fat people. But in the reality of the situation, it was. Wether he intended it as such or not.
You can't stand in the middle a group of Nazi's and just criticize the jews a *little* and not be seen as a nazi....

yes.. nazi example... bad of me... But it makes the difference bold and I'm too tired to come up with something more clever.

The health aspect, I agree with. I agree that there comes a certain point for all people where they must just LOSE WEIGHT.
The fat acceptance crowd is trying to make fat people feel better than they do... but one of the major off shoots of this is the hope that when you make it acceptable to be fat, the doubling numbers of girls (and boys) with anorexia nervosa might start to quell.
That's my slant on the whole thing anyone.
The Fat acceptance people rather annoy me.
Just as much as the "get off your ass, fatty" people annoy me.

I didn't throw in on debate because I have no desire to be just lumped in with the idiots telling him that not embracing fat people is just like hating blacks.

I'm rambling.

Yeah.. I'm not actually pissed or offended. As I said... I was amused. I'm one of those silly people who don't say that unless it's true.
Jan. 31st, 2002 11:48 am (UTC)
Re: Send her home if she does not like it...
I haven't seen the movie, and may be horribly off in a number of posts. But my impression was that the fat-suit character engaged in a number of stereotypical fat-person-caricature activities, and actually was portrayed as a slob (thus the overweight groups protesting). This would be consistent with absolutcalm complaining about the lifestyle (acting like a slob), not just being the same size as someone who acts like a slob.
Jan. 31st, 2002 02:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Send her home if she does not like it...
I've honestly not seen the movie either.
I don't know if the person engaged in stereotypical fat person behavior. I don't know if they were a slob.
He didn't say that they should be booed for slobbishness, but that the focus on LOVING the slob was a bad tact.

Like I said... I'm pretty sure that it's a matter of the way he put things more than his actual intent.
But, if he really wanted all this cleared up, wouldn't he have also posted something clearing up his intent? I actually didn't read any of the 100+ responses because when I saw the post... I knew what the responses would be.
Maybe he better qualified his statements... cleared things up somewhere in there.
I dunno.

I'll say again.. I wasn't offended or angry :;grin::
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