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Adventures in MTV

I took a bath to attempt to warm up because the AC is still set at something approaching frostbite warning temperature.
Then I went into my room, got into bed and flipped on the tv to zone a little before I tried sleeping.
I flipped around, watched a little Jimminy Glick (which gets so annoying after about 5 minutes that I *have* to switch it) and did some more flipping around and ended up on MTV.
There was this very red and white clothed mob on a red and white stage with a guy in red with black, frizzy, lopped off, reminiscent of Robert Smith hair playing the guitar and a chick in red with long, black, very 60s hair playing the drums.
I sat there waiting to see the thing pop up at the end just to see what the hot holy hell this thing was.
There was more music to be played and I was struck by 1) how much I didn't like it, 2) how much of an homage to 60's rock it was, and 3) just how god awfully sheepish all these cute teens on stage looked, moving along to the music in their lil pogoing, hair flipping way.
Then the artist info pops up and it's the White Stripes, who I've heard waaaaaaaaaay too much about, but had never heard or seen.
MAN am I unimpressed.
Again, I'm led to believe that people tend to dig things just because it's overplayed or falls into a genre that they think they should like.

Then these two guys are sitting in the studio. This is apparently part of a show called "All things Rock".
So I listen for a minute as they introduce the next group, who these two heavily tattooed and pierced 16 year olds say they're on the warped tour with. It's something called New Found Glory. So I listen for a minute.
Why do these bands bother coming up with new names?
Why don't they just refer to themselves as a number branch off of their attempted genre?
These guys would be PopPunk345... hmm.. maybe that's what Blink182 and Sum41 are going for....

I think the only interesting or new thing about New Found Glory is that they have a chubby bass player with green hair who's in the video without a shirt on. Manboobs and gut bouncing to pre-processed rhythm "punk" #12.

I got back online out of curiosity about who else is going to be a mainstage act at warped tour this year...
28 Days, Alkaline Trio, All, Andrew W.K. (isn't this the "party hard" moron?) , ANti Flag, Area 7, Bad Religion (and they have begun to suck something fierce since Mr. Brett split on them) , Bodyjar, The Casualties, Flogging Molly, For Amusement Only, Gob, Goldfinger, Good Charlotte, Guttermouth, Lagwagon, Manic Hispanic, Midtown, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Morgan Heritage, MxPx, No Use For A Name (truth in band naming?) , NoFX, One Dollar Short, Ozma (Rhett should find that frightening), Pennywise, Pistol Grip, Reel Big Fish, Riddlin Kids, Thursday, Toe to Toe, Total Chaos, The Vandals, Will Haven, and Yellowcard.
The rest of the lists are here.

Now, I don't know most of those bands. The ones I know that are mainstage acts are... well .. they're things that if I found a cd in a second hand shop and it was under 5 bucks, I might consider buying it... but probably wouldn't.
Or I'd pick it up and think about the time, way back when, when I thought they were sort of neat.
There are a few that I *do* know that are on other stages or their placement isn't known yet.

I dunno why this is all ... weird to me. It just is. Festival tours... I guess there's a rule somewhere that they all have to simply SUCK after the first year.


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Jun. 24th, 2002 11:31 pm (UTC)
God, I wish I had air conditioning. I am envious.
Jun. 24th, 2002 11:55 pm (UTC)
Put one on your wedding registry!
Jun. 24th, 2002 11:57 pm (UTC)
MTV is like being tied up and made to guzzle down things you may enjoy eating, but in a way and rate that makes you vomit from the mere thought of it after their done.
It's not always the band, it's them. I used to like the White Stripes, but after that MTV movie award display, well I want to vomit when I think of them.
They do this, this is their job.
They should all die.
Jun. 25th, 2002 08:53 am (UTC)
I recently found a college radio station that played stuff that was sometimes separate from the normal music radio programming (I got hooked when I tuned in one day and they were playing James Brown, then Louie Prima).
They played White Stripes and a few other songs I liked at first.... then I heard it too often... then I heard KROQ playing it on my sister's stereo.... then MTV starts playing it.

Radio air-play is the beginning of the decent for how long I can tolerate a song.
Some of my favorite stuff that I listen to regularly gets played once every fifteen years, if that.
Maybe that's why I'm such a metalhead.... no one plays Slayer or Pantera on the radio. Even KNAC would rarely go that far, when it was broadcasting.
And maybe that's why I don't like "nu-metal"... besides the fact that it's uninspired and sometimes worse than glam-metal.
Jun. 25th, 2002 10:02 am (UTC)
And maybe that's why I don't like "nu-metal"... besides the fact that it's uninspired and sometimes worse than glam-metal.

Or maybe becuase it's the watered down, pop, mall metal version of hardcore?
"Nu-metal" pisses me off to no end because of how fucking HARD they pretend they are.
Go listen to some STrapping Young Lad and then tell me how gaddamned hard POD is in comparison.
Or hell.. even things like Downset have got it all over "nu-metal" bullshit.

It annoys me even MORE that they don't seem to get that there was originally a difference between rapcore and hardcore. They picked up a thing here and there and decided that they had to rap in all their songs because, well, that's what this "authentic hardcore handbook" said they should do...

And it just kills me that acts like Hatebreed are more than happy to perform right alongside pieces of shit like POD. I was never *way* into Hatebreed... but it's still sort of like seeing that cool kid ya once knew and hung out with here and there decide that they're going to become a preppy dipshit and go buy some izod shirts and boat shoes.

Jun. 25th, 2002 10:51 am (UTC)
Public Enemy & Anthrax =====> Rage Against The Machine =======> Limp Bizkit????

What the fuck?
Jun. 25th, 2002 11:44 am (UTC)
Limp Bizkit sounds like a Downset rip off+ scratching... because scratching is "ooold skool, yo"

Anthrax is metal, dude.. not hardcore.
Jun. 25th, 2002 04:05 pm (UTC)
I was simply pointing to the evolution of the mix of rock and rap, as it is popularly understood. Besides, when you mix it with rap, is there any difference between "hardcore" and "metal"?

Ice-T with Slayer doing three Exploited songs? That's Metal.
Ozzy Osbourne doing a song with DMX? That's rap.
It really depends on where the focus of the song is.
Jun. 25th, 2002 07:59 pm (UTC)
Besides, when you mix it with rap, is there any difference between "hardcore" and "metal"?

Different cadence, different rhythm set, and different focus musically.
Hardcore tends to be very much predominantly lower ranged, crunchy, deep throated and growly all around while metal has *some* of that but it also goes into the higher toned, screeching, wailing guitar stuff that Hardcore *completely* leaves out.


Don't ask me questions like that. I think there's a HUGE difference between DnB and Jungle.
Jun. 25th, 2002 09:52 am (UTC)
It's not *always* the band... but most of the time... it's the band.

I didn't even realize it was an award show thing until the artist info popped up.
It was vile, Dave... Vile...
Jun. 25th, 2002 10:27 am (UTC)
an old dear friend of mine is playing w/ that warped tour too (death by stereo). despite the fact that i love him to death, i dont think wild horses could drag me to that thing.
Jun. 25th, 2002 10:37 am (UTC)
Yay, Andrew WK.
Jun. 25th, 2002 11:49 am (UTC)
...and don't even get me started on how the whole mess is called "alternative."

i remember what alternative was, when it WAS an alternative to the crap that got airplay. now, alternative IS the crap that gets airplay.

but i digress...
Jun. 25th, 2002 12:12 pm (UTC)
everything i do, i do it for you...
Jun. 25th, 2002 02:26 pm (UTC)
Re: everything i do, i do it for you...
i thought a doxin was a car company that renamed itself in the 1980's or 1990's as nissan ;-)
Jun. 27th, 2002 06:47 am (UTC)
I'm dark, mysterious, anonymous, and well.. brainless.
I have an odd partiality to the warped tour. I'm an old school punk who ran an indi label. Currently, I am part owner of 2 different indi labels (Go here http://www.alternativetentacles.com and buy stuff.) Anyway, I enjoy seeing people I know achieving an amount of success. I realize that most pop punk sounds the same, but most street punk and hardcore sounded the same. There were very few "unique" sounding bands. What does annoy me, however (I say however to sound smarter), is that some of them really aren't as good as their underground brethren. The Descendents and the Mr. T Experience are the original and quite good "pop" punk gurus, significantly more entertaining than Green Day. The band to watch at the warped tour is the Vandals just for sentimental purposes.

On a side vent note: One of the best hardcore bands ever "Minor Threat" which eventually spawned "Fugazi", an impressive band are utterly evil. For the simple reason that they are coonsidered the "fathers" of Emo.

Anyway, it's way early and I am way hungover so I doubt I am really making any sense. The main reason I go to Warped? I love chicks with tatoos and metal in their face. Call me old fashioned.....
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