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8 pictures.

I walked around the patiogarden real quick. took some shots. These are random, unplanned, uncropped, unedited except for a resize. No viewfinder, no view screen. My crappy digital.

I don't have a lomo, but I can act as if I do.

The swirls of half and half in my very cool coffee this morning

My Cherry tomatoes

Super close up of the corn plant that has begun to grow in and amoungst the iris in the front bed.


Gerberas are my favorite non-wild flower, I think....

Salvia blooms.

Really nice sunset

If it were darker it would look a lil like that sky in Poltergiest. ::nods::


Jul. 27th, 2002 07:32 pm (UTC)
Re: allow me...
since you keep posting these things, I assume it must mean you want criticism. Allow me:

"these things" are just shots of things that I enjoyed. If I want criticism, I'll post it in a community of photographers who can actually give me meaningful criticism or I'll ask people who can see my intent and help me get closer to what I'm trying to do.
I posted these here for a few people who I know enjoy the flower shots. And because it's my own fucking journal and I can post whatever I like to it. As I'm sure you've discovered in your journal, land of the self aggrandizing treatise on "How to be a Player"...

Believe it or not on a good day I shoot as much film as I have light for. That means I have a *hell* of a lot of photos that you nor any other "lj people" have seen or probably will ever see.

Heh.. I wouldn't ask *you* for criticism because:
1) I've never seen you express an artistic thought, you're all logic.

2) Hehe.. you tend to be pretty pompous and rude when it comes to your opinion and sometimes the pictures I post *mean* something to me and I'd rather not have them ripped apart.

3) I don't recall you really having any interest in art of any sort, let alone photography. Though I could be wrong.

But, since you've gone ahead and made a bad assumption, I'll play along and take you point by point.

1- Bad shot; unclear, the patterns unfocused

meant to be. It's morning, it's natural light. It's semi- unfocused.
It's an effect.

2- that single shadow ruins the effect; distracts

Actually I think you're exactly wrong on that one. If I wanted studio light I would have gotten a spotlight and hauled it outside. The shadow is shadow from a leaf. It's obviously outside. Natural night is not perfect, tungsten, ambered, and softened just so.
Different sorts of photography call for different lighting schemes. ::shrug::

3- nice balance; very aesthetically pleasing.

And ya know what? It breaks most of the 'rules' of photography. Aint that a stinker?

4- background throws off color

Background is a continuation of flower tone.

5- improperly focused.

On purpose.

6- nice shot. I like it.

This is actually the worst shot of the bunch and I considered not putting it up at all except Kaeren and I were talking about Salvia and I thought she might dig seeing one of the blooms. The background is a huge distraction and the cropping on the flower stalk annoys me... I want the top there or more of the bottom. There is a plastic back in the bottom right corner, there are too many distracting colors and too much to draw the eyes away to the left.

7- Another lovely one, though sinple.

It's way too busy. The flag on the left is nice, but the light pole kills it. The darkness of the foreground is the only thing that saves this one... and it's anything but simple...

8- can't think of why, but I don't like it. Feels like parts of the sky are too.. empty. Not enuogh weight, you see. But whatever.

Again, this is the better shot. It's called framing.
You want a hallmark card picture? Maybe something with an inspirational saying on it in nice loopy script? Go to heaven and earth and pick one up. That's not how my eyes work and none of these were put up for *you*.I'm not one of your lil alcolytes and I'm not one of your pseudo-intellectual libertarian hangers-on wankers. I'm a pretty straight forward person. If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have asked for it. The fact that you didn't get that really doesn't suprise me.

Jul. 27th, 2002 08:37 pm (UTC)
Re: allow me...
If you think my journal is a self-aggrandizing treatise on "How to be a player" you must not be reading the many entries I dedicate to what, and how frequently, I do wrong in the dating word, not to mention the many "why the hell do women like me anyway" questions-- plus, the politics and opinions.

I am not pompous and the only time I'm rude is when someone presents something that strike me as patently stupid. Creative endeavors don't count; most people find me to be quite diplomatic, when I'm not being a dickhead. What can I say, I'm a man of extremes!

As for "artistic thought" the entire journal (or at least a bulk of my style) is "artistic thought." But I'm mostly logic. Still, I dig caravaggio and El Greco, am frequently moved to tears by music (I've a thing for requiem masses) and less frequently moved by films (such as Mulhouland Drive).

And I've got like a thousand Cameras (okay, 6, one professional, one polaroid, three regular and an advantex).

And while I don't know the "art" of it (so yeah, I'm utilitarian, bite me), I do know what I like...

5- improperly focused. On purpose.

and that's got to be the oddest artistic choice I've seen all year. But then, I'm no art-teest.

As for the rest, I'll say this: You posted on a public journal and the fact that you didn't expect this does surprise me. Put out the art, enable the comments, that usually means--- hey, comment. Of course, when someone up and actually does.....
Jul. 28th, 2002 01:12 am (UTC)
Re: allow me...
and that's got to be the oddest artistic choice I've seen all year. But then, I'm no art-teest.

I'm no "art-teest" either and I've never claimed to be.
But you've got to be fucking joking if you're telling me that you know your shit (even vaguely) about photography and don't understand a purposefully unfocused shot.

As for the rest, I'll say this: You posted on a public journal and the fact that you didn't expect this does surprise me. Put out the art, enable the comments, that usually means--- hey, comment. Of course, when someone up and actually does.....

I've no problem with comments.
It was your "since you keep putting up these things (my emphasis)I guess you want criticism" comment. I don't know why *you* write or post, but I'd say only 1/4 of my posts have anything to do with whoever happens to be seeing them. I take pictures because I enjoy it. Sometimes, I put those pictures up for public consumption.
I'm a member of several photography communities. If I want criticism, that's where I put the photos. But most of the time if I'm putting them up somewhere, it's for *me*.

It wasn't even that you had anything critical to say, truth be told. I enjoy constructive criticism where it's warranted. On the other hand, I find it hard to take criticism when it's begun with a statement toned with such arrogance. I don't know if you actually set out to do it or if it's somehow a twist of the textual medium, but you come off as quite the elitist, even in the presumption that I wanted someone to critique what I've put here.
Is every post of yours a field day on your grammar, spelling and sentence structure?

Also, a lot of the things you had to say were just way off base from a design/visual media perspective.
::shrug:: Basic "pleasing to the eye" aesthetics... intrinsically human ones.

By the way, the reason I said at the top of the post that these were in lomo style is that that's important in understanding where I'm coming from here. These are all taken without a viewfinder, spur of the moment, unedited, usually at arms length. If I'd actually been using film and my professional camera I'd be a lot more open to the points of your critique. As it is, you're telling me my goofy snapshotty pictures aren't what you dig. Horror of horrors.
I run around with my digital taking shots of what catches my fancy as a means of figuring out what works and what doesn't.

And for fun. *Fun*...

Jul. 28th, 2002 09:57 am (UTC)
Re: allow me...
It was your "since you keep putting up these things (my emphasis)

My bad. Didn't mean to be insulting. Two sentences and I come off arrogant? Are you sure that isn't my rep. talking?

Ahh well, whatever. It's over.

But my opinions maintain.
Jul. 28th, 2002 11:10 am (UTC)
Re: allow me...
It's a history, dude.. not just from two sentence.
Though, those two sentences in particular were pretty arrogant.

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Jul. 28th, 2002 12:53 am (UTC)
Re: allow me...
This is with my not-very-good kodak digital. I like taking a lot of random pictures and seeing what I get. I'd never be able to afford it sans darkroom if I were using film for shots like these.


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