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I am Jack's smirking smirkiness

Looking up some basis to throw in dlbags's face next time he tells me Lucas is a genius and I tell him that lucas is a rip off artist, I found some connections between Lucas and Tolkien on several sites.
Now, I loathe Tolkien. I cannot read his books they're just very very bad. Dave told me that you have to get most of the way through the Lord of the Rings before you actually get into it... and that's just going a little far on the "stick with it" front for me. I'm all for reading for the purpose of educating myself, so I will read books that aren't entertaining, but they have to make up for it by being really fucking informative. I just don't seen Tolkien doing that for me.
Anyway, one of the hits I got was from an ezboard.com message board and the first message from "The Dwarf" , an unregistered user reads as follows:

Tolkien's stealing of stories
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Hello. Is for the obvious that "Lord of the Rings" is writes for many years before Star Wars so is not copies by Tolkiens of Lucas.

But is not for manys of knows that Tolkiens is STEALINGS of manys of stories and names from Icelandic writes of Snorri Sturluson whos is writes in 12th century which is very far befores the writes of Rings as from Tolkien.

If is wants for see prooves of this for the looks at page of THE DWARF

Is for the thinks of THE DWARF as to very bads for Tolkiens for steals from stories and is makes many monies. Please tell of your mind here!!!!


That "THE DWARF" site is written in the same very horribly crippled english as this post.
Fun stuff. It's worth it just for the line "Is there a resembling? YES!"
And the board is worth reading just for some of the incredibly inane and wacked out things people say there. Like the force is based on Wiccan beliefs about "mind over matter."
And Lucas ripped off Kurosawa. Saying someone is "influenced" by someone else in the movie directing arena usually is pretty equivelant to saying that they stole, lock stock and barrel, a style from an older, better director.

I'm "getting on my high horse" and handing out my opinon. Scroll bar, dude... scroll bar.
heheh

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luvrhino
Sep. 29th, 2002 07:37 pm (UTC)
look who's smirking, too
Happy frobisher's Birthday Day!

I see that you're celebrating it in the appropriate manner.
maddening
Sep. 29th, 2002 07:42 pm (UTC)
Re: look who's smirking, too
ooh.. shouldn't I be bashing Dr. Who, Buffy, and Stanley Kubrick films?

Or did you just mean the general snarkiness?
luvrhino
Sep. 29th, 2002 08:04 pm (UTC)
What exactly does the Dave know?
The mysterious mystery of my post was merely a reference to your cinematic high horsiness.

That's not to say you shouldn't be bashing Dr. Who, Buffy, and Stanley Kubrick films...
maddening
Sep. 29th, 2002 08:09 pm (UTC)
Re: What exactly does the Dave know?
You. Are. Excellent.
frobisher
Sep. 30th, 2002 02:15 pm (UTC)
Re: What exactly does the Dave know?
Good to know you guys were thinking of me...
maddening
Sep. 30th, 2002 02:20 pm (UTC)
Re: What exactly does the Dave know?
actually, it was just Ken.
dlbags
Sep. 29th, 2002 08:28 pm (UTC)
Heh.
Theft or homage...if Lucas denies using things he learned by watching him, then it's theft. I would have never discovered him[Kurasowa] myself were it not for an interview I read with Lucas when I was young. So to me, that's a good thing. That's what it's all about. I agree, it's a fine line, but jesus, the way you go on about it, you act like he denies it or something.

Also, you're being sellective..remember when we spoke? What did I say what I meant by genius? I meant that Lucas is one smart motherfucker- which he is...being a genius, although it's been highjacked by artists doesn't mean artistically. I meant that Lucas is very smart and has a very high IQ.

That site though was funny...






maddening
Sep. 30th, 2002 04:10 am (UTC)
Re: Heh.
And I think that that's where our basic disagreement about lucas is. I don't think he's that ubersmart. I don't see him as a really really intelligent guy. He's not DUMB, but he's not one of the greatest minds of the 20th century either. I think he's a very very lucky guy with a pretty good directorial talent when he was young that seems to just be getting less and less as he ages, gets richer, and gets to think about what happens to all those unbought Jar Jar Binks soap dispensers.

I think that if you used the word genius to mean someone with a high IQ and *only* that, (and if everyone else in the world did it too. hehe) we'd just be better off. But sometimes you say a guitar player is a genius and just mean he's a good guitar player, not that he's exceptionally bright.

::shrug::

Me: really really dislikes Lucas' work and sees very little 'original' there except the sci-fi context. (thank you Kirosawa, thank you Joseph Campbell)
You: enjoys some of Lucas's work, thinks the man is a very smart person. Loves American Grafitti.

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