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Oct. 17th, 2002

I'm watching Jackie Chan movies tonight. I think it's funny that the Chinese movies don't have any focus on his buffness, but that's one of the main things they put a point on in Rumble in the Bronx. Dunno, funny the different approach. Just like.. in the American movie they point out his prowess really early on. In the Chinese movies they tend to make it look like total luck that he just happened to bumble his way into winning.
(update: of course, now that I look it up, it was made with a chinese title in 95, released in america in 96. So it wasn't really an *american* movie... So I change my mind and put it down to the director)

At work, Deneen pointed out that she pictured me as a goody goody girl, never doing anything wrong. Always on time, eager to please, honestly just happy to work and be helpful. The five other people standing there agreed.
That's a common perception. Apparently I put off a big innocence vibe (it doesn't help that I still come off as a high schooler too. I asked that guy I was training the other day how old he was and he was embarassed to tell me he was 25 because he thought I was probably *maybe* 18 years old). And if you never have a conversation with me where I'm actually myself... then that never goes away. Heh, and how often at work do I feel like I can just... speak my mind?
Not often.

I've felt very strange the last couple days. Angry, bitter, and justifiably so. But also just trying to make sure that I'm okay. It feels selfish but right and somewhere mixed in there I feel like I'm maybe just finding parts of me that I didn't know were there.

hard to explain really.

I picked up the phone when Tim called tonight. He hung up before I got past "hello, Tim..." which is good. I don't know what else I would have said.

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invasive
Oct. 18th, 2002 04:26 am (UTC)
Jackie Chan
An interesting theory about Chan, although the recent American-made movie "The Tuxedo" makes the Chan character a screw-up from the beginning. He only gets to kick ass thanks to a multi-billion-dollar experimental suit. Even at the end of the movie, he still can't get the girl he wants. Not that I'm saying you should watch the Tuxedo. In fact, you should stay away from it. Far, far away. Yecch.
akadashi
Oct. 18th, 2002 07:27 am (UTC)
Re: Jackie Chan
Even at the end of the movie, he still can't get the girl he wants

On behalf of those of us who hadn't seen the film yet, I'd just like to thank you for the spoiler. No, I wasn't expecting it to be Citizen Kane or something - I'd probably just see it for Jackie's stunts. But on the off chance that I could let my brain detach enough to actually enjoy the story on some level, again I just wanna say thanks for telling me how a subplot winds up at THE END OF THE FILM.

Not to quote Holly, but... oh, let's paraphrase. I'm one of those people who likes to know as little as possible about a movie before watching it. I don't care how clever/funny/insignificant YOU (the universal "you" of course - because everyone in the fucking universe does this) think that part of the movie was, it's STILL part of the movie. If it gets anywhere near then END of the movie or involves subplot resolution of some kind, then double shut the fuck up in a public forum. Or at least post a warning. All y'all. Seriously.
invasive
Oct. 18th, 2002 08:22 am (UTC)
It's too bad you were talking to the universal "You", because I ignore all those posts.

Or were you talking to me in particular? Well, then, chill the fuck out already. If all you give a shit about is Jackie's stunts, then what the hell do you care about the subplot? Or are you going to see it for reasons other than his stunts?

Well...that's probably fine, because the stunts are the same stuff you've seen in dozens of action movies. Nothing comes even close to matching Police Story 3, or Drunken Master 2, or Rumble in the Bronx...

Sorry about spoiling the "subplot", but this really ain't a public forum anyway, it's somebody's journal.
akadashi
Oct. 18th, 2002 09:22 am (UTC)
It's too bad you were talking to the universal "You", because I ignore all those posts

Don't try to be clever - I was expanding it to include the universe, since it's such a common behavior, as I stated. And while Jackie's stunt work may be the main reason to see a picture like that, I'd still like to salvage any chance there may be of actually enjoying the movie itself. I've seen most of Jackie's films, even nightmarishly laughable things like "Fantasy Mission Force", so I know that often the story is lacking, but I still try to enjoy it on whatever level I can so the stunts don't end up being "all I give a shit about".

As for this not being a public forum, in the context of my comments, yeah it kinda is. This was a non-private post in someone's non-private journal, viewable by anyone on the net who might stumble upon it. In cases like that, it's generally good etiquette to either hide something behind a cut tag (which yes, I know, you can't do in comments), or at least warn that you're revealing part of the plot. I think Holly will back me up on this - it's a peeve we both share.
maddening
Oct. 18th, 2002 09:27 am (UTC)
I don't want to start or perpetuate a silly fight in my journal, But if I had to pick a side, I'd choose his.
It's a constant bitch of mine that people tell me way too much about movies. Even though I would also probably just be watching for the stunts, knowing how the movie goes (through some trailers I've accidentally seen, more comments like this one from people who dunno about this strict no-info policy I like to maintain and just from non stop media saturation) does indeed retract from it.


I'm really careful when I talk about movies, never talking about anything that could potentially give away something in the plot or even characters without it being behind a cut. I know not everyone has the same theory or viewing habits and that's fine. But I know it pisses me off to no end to stumble across a journal and see someone more or less dissect a movie I want to see without any sort of spoiler warning or cut tag.
I don't maintain a movie review community. So I don't post 'rules' for things like that.
I just hope that people who read would take the cue.

I didn't really plan to see The Tuxedo unless it happened to be on cable a year from now or something. But that's me, not necessarily my friends.
punkalicia
Oct. 18th, 2002 10:00 am (UTC)
assmonkey.
invasive
Oct. 21st, 2002 02:12 am (UTC)
Your witty wordplay has hurt my feelings.
Ouch.
akadashi
Oct. 18th, 2002 07:06 am (UTC)
Hey now, City Hunter was ALL ABOUT his studliness. Cee tee hon taurrrrr!!
maddening
Oct. 18th, 2002 09:17 am (UTC)
I thought that one was more his slick James Bond style.
Rumble in the Bronx certainly encourages you to just check out his buffliness in that lil one piece undie set he was wearing.

And then I watched Fearless Hyena.
There are just soooooooo many things to say about that one.
akadashi
Oct. 18th, 2002 09:26 am (UTC)
Rumble in the Bronx certainly encourages you to just check out his buffliness in that lil one piece undie set he was wearing

Ah yes - Rumble in the Bronx aka "Camel Toe Jackie". Seriously, he has a vagina.

As for Fearless Hyena, congratulations - you've actually seen two movies at once! I say this because so much of Fearless Hyena 2 is footage from the first pic, that it practially counts at the same film. Are you renting again or was that on cable somewhere? Have you seen a lot of his earlier films like that? I can't remember if we've talked about this or not...
maddening
Oct. 18th, 2002 10:21 am (UTC)
My mom actually taped it at some point. It was on cable apparently like... 2 years ago and she taped it then.
I haven't seen A LOT of his earlier films...just 3 or 4.
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