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I have too much estrogen (or whatever it is) for anyone's good.

I have this semi rant in my head that has fuck all to do with the above sentence about Eileen Wournos and serial killers in general and how first of all, most people don't understand that there's a murderer (someone who kills) and then there's a mass murderer (someone who kills a lot of people all at once) and then there's a spree killer (someone who kills a lot of people over the course of a sort of rampage, usually involving cross country travel and a lot of other crimes as well), and then WAAAAAY out away from all of them is a serial killer.

There's just too much to fit into a semi-sane entry. So I probably will never make that rant. Because in addition to people not understanding the difference between all of those things, I have even *more* issue with people who do, but then are fans. There's a difference between a big tongue in cheek membership in the Ed Gein fan club (Fun Fact: Ed Gein wasn't a serial killer by the FBI's standards of definition), and someone who is HONESTLY a *fan* of a serial killer.

You'll note that Dhamer lacks a huge following if you look around on the web. Bad jokes and 'good riddance' is all you'll see about him. About the same as Dennis Nielsen, his british counterpart. Dhamer wanted a live in love slave and so tried to lobotomize his victims, Nielsen just wanted someone to be a companion and so nicely killed and then kept his victims. Neither of them were 'out', both of them came from super masculine fathers who would have been horribly ashamed of their sexuality.
I have a theory that the reason the gay killers don't have as much of a fan following as the straight ones is that most of the serial killer fandom is actually pushed by *women* not men or boys.

It's hard to find someone to have an intelligent conversation about all this with. They're either fucking squicked by the whole thing (which I think is the more normal response), or they're a fan and think it's fucking cool that so and so did this or that. I used to think that this was becuase these people had never actually experience death. And in some cases I think that's part of it but then I think it has something to do a disconnect between real and 'it's only tv' that some people seem to have. and on and on and on.

and ya know what? This *wasn't* the rant. heh.

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maddening
Mar. 3rd, 2004 10:22 am (UTC)
well, I meant people who aren't just big fans of dead baby jokes...

Of course, I've known plenty of those too. I think those people account for the popularity of the Faces of Death series of videos.

starchy
Mar. 3rd, 2004 12:31 pm (UTC)
Actually, I'm a big fan of dead baby jokes. Faces of Death not so much. I'm likely to enjoy art/humor/etc -- things with a fictitious basis -- that involves killing, mutilation, gore, and even, in some cases, extreme sexual violence (cf Cronenburg, Troma, Maruo's paintings, etc). The difference is that in the case of a fiction, depending somewhat on context and presentation, I can basically supress my reflex for compassion. To so easily do so in regard to reality, when not dealing with abstractions, is pretty much sociopathic.
maddening
Mar. 3rd, 2004 01:30 pm (UTC)
see... that all makes perfect sense.

I was thinking of the "blow it up with a firecracker" set...even though I'm less than eloquent today.

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