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CBS ticked off fans of its CSI: NY Wednesday night, during the episode's final moments, when the network broke in with the news that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat had died. "An overly aggressive CBS News producer jumped the gun with a report that should have been offered to local stations for their late news," said CBS's apology, which did not name the producer. "We sincerely regret the error." CBS will rerun the episode – in its entirety it is hoped – Friday night.


Silly news producer. Americans don't care about world politics. If it doesn't have a slogan attached to it, it doesn't mean anything to us.

Also.. uh .. CSI: NY? Really?

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punkalicia
Nov. 12th, 2004 08:01 am (UTC)
ohhhh. come on! the most horrible thing to happen when you watching a crime drama is to miss that last few minute wrap up...losing that wastes the whole hour you've spent watching. and i'm not just saying that because tivo ate the last 5 mins of the last CSI:original that i was watching last week. AGONY. also, who gets thier news on tv anymore anyway? do not trust the SCLM!
maddening
Nov. 12th, 2004 08:46 am (UTC)
The thing is... They're pissed enough to complain to the network. And the network is conerned enough out this group of people, their core watchers, to give a formal apology for interrupting a CRIME DRAMA with news of the long standing Palenstinian leader's death.

"we are sorry that important and possibly CATASTROPHIC news about what's going on in the work interrupted the exciting conclusion of unrealistic drivel delivered by attractive line readers."

Great love for forensic science. No love for CSI and it's billion and 1 offshoots. CSI: Miami? How the hell did that happen?

The midwest and the south apparently still gets their news on tv. Or at least Ohio and Florida.

skreidle
Nov. 12th, 2004 09:36 am (UTC)
I like CSI, I like the people in CSI: Miami better, I'm undecided on CSI: NY. It just doesn't seem to fit the series--mroe darkness and drama, less forensics and CG.


I'm annoyed with the FCC about this Saving Private Ryan debacle; I hadn't really heard anything about the news/Arafat issue. Of course, the news reports are making him look like a martyr and all-around great guy.
maddening
Nov. 12th, 2004 09:57 am (UTC)
See.. I knew of the existence of CSI. I got suckered in to watching an episode by my sister who knows that I've been interested in forensics and forensic pathology for years. That was the nail in the "taking recommendations from my sister" coffin.

FCC... Saving Private Ryan... huh?

I am soooo out of the tv loop these days.

We knew about Arafat and all of the issues surrounding his death because we were in Paris when he fell ill and was hospitalized there (and also becuse BBC World actually reports news, which is refreshing.)
Arafat wasn't a martyr or all around great guy. But he wasn't a monster either, despite the head dress and brown skin. That's something that I thik a lot of Americans will have a hard time wrapping their head around.
Also, becuase America has systematically *ignored* the middle east peace process over the last four years (to the point where there now *isn't* a process at all), Arafat's death leaves the door wide open for a massive upswing in violence and chaos. He was one of the few things keeping Palestine from erupting in full out rage at Israel.
skreidle
Nov. 12th, 2004 10:11 am (UTC)
It varies from episode to episode.. some are (relatively) realistic, with cool graphics and a good story, others just aren't and don't.

ABC planned ed to screen Saving Private Ryan, in its unedited entirety, at 8pm on Veterans Day. 20+ of the 225 affiliates didn't air it for fear of FCC "indecency/obscenity" prosecution, because the FCC doesn't care about "context." (It's been okayed the last two years, but one never knows.) http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6455962/

Regarding the "peace process" in Israel/Palestine, I read an interesting piece on valid national boundaries, takeovers, American ignorance, and the like recently.. http://www.michaelduff.net/blog/2004/11/why-i-support-israe.html
punkalicia
Nov. 12th, 2004 11:06 am (UTC)
ugh. i think the middle east peace process died with Rabin's assasination, and the Likud party taking power.

I do think overall, Arafat is a bad man. did he make changes toward the end of his life? sure. i still don't think he deserved that peace prize. he became a reformed terrorist, but still, he did alot of fucked up shit.

my one true hope is that sharon will get knocked out of power and someone not batfuck crazy will be able to work with the palestinians. i'm probably a bad jew, but i fucking hate the Likud party and think they are horrible bad nasty people who are warmongers and fools and helped destroy the peace process.

i think that arafat's death doesn't just leave the door open for violence, but also for true change. he had a lot of history behind him for both sides, and maybe someone without that baggage will be able to compromise on both sides.
maddening
Nov. 15th, 2004 05:35 pm (UTC)
I think that pointing at any side in particular in the Israeli conflict as terrorists lets the other side off too easily. If what Palestine has done is terrorism, what is it that Israel has done?

Arafat won the peace prize (jointly with Rabin and Peres) for their *collective* efforts toward a plan for peace in their region. I can think of worse reasons and worse people that have been awarded the same prize (Henry Kissinger, for example).

punkalicia
Nov. 15th, 2004 05:58 pm (UTC)
don't get me started on Kissinger...

and, to be clear, i think sharon is every bit at bad, if not worse than arafat, cause arafat was at least honest about his methods and past. while sharon...well...no one talks about the shit he did in the refugee camps.

honestly, i want to sit both sides down, and when they start any bullshit just beat the living fuck out of them and not let them out of the room until they stop killing each other and actually put together a plan that both sides can live with. (b/c violence by alicia solves all!)

and fuck those stupid settlers.
maddening
Nov. 12th, 2004 10:04 am (UTC)
guh.. nevermind... looked up the FCC/ Saving Private Ryan thing.

Corporate own stations will ALWAYS cover their ass first. The FCC is following its own guidelines to the T. But they're guidelines that were enacted far too long ago to be meaningful and they lack context.
It's bureacracy at its finest, and more of the same really. People only give a shit about *this* becuase it's stations censoring a PATRIOTIC story.
skreidle
Nov. 12th, 2004 10:15 am (UTC)
Patriotism aside, I think that, by and large, "obscenity" and "indecency" guidelines are draconian and puritanical. It's ridiculous, overall, and parents are leaning on the broadcasters/publishers/et al to pick up the slack when they aren't paying attention to what their kids are doing/watching/reading.
punkalicia
Nov. 12th, 2004 10:57 am (UTC)
CSI:Miami is a curse and a pox upon us all! and i'm not just saying that because i hate david curuso with a blind hate i usually reserve for killers and politicians.

and while i personally would have been cranky, i can't imagine complaining to anyone but close friends. people who will still love me despite my terrible taste in tv (my only defense is hey! at least it's not reality tv)

i will be honest, i'm always skeptical about how they break into shows. they never seem to break into commercial time...not that i watch commercials anymore, but still.

i was forced to watch some network news on election night (fox and something almost as painful) and it was horrible and horrific. i can't believe people can stand to watch that shit. NO WONDER americans are so fucking ignorant.
frobisher
Nov. 12th, 2004 01:01 pm (UTC)
CSI:Miami is a curse and a pox upon us all! and i'm not just saying that because i hate david curuso with a blind hate i usually reserve for killers and politicians.

See, that's exactly why I usually say that. And I have to admit that, now that I've actually watched an episode of CSI:M or two... It's not anywhere near as bad as I thought - Not that it's actuallly good, mind you. Yes, I am filled with shame.

As far as the CSI:NY/Arafat thing is concerned, I have to say that I don't think it would have mattered if they'd waited the, oh, about 3 minutes until the end of the episode to do a full recap of Arafat's career. The 11 o'clock news was right over the horizon, and a quick announcement with "details on our 11 o'clock newscast" would probably have been a better idea.

On the other hand, once they did it, the ensuing hoohah is kind of out of hand.
maddening
Nov. 13th, 2004 06:36 am (UTC)
See, the concept that the news of the death of a world leader should just wait for the wrap up of a crime drama on tv is fucking silly to me. I've seen that exact sentiment in a lot of place. "They could have just waited a few minutes," and honestly, they probably should have just waited indefinitely. No one in the US cares about anything if it can't conceivably fit into the line up of Access Hollywood.

I'm just really really cranky about America in general these days and why we're all so poorly educated and such ASSHOLES.
mjfgates
Nov. 13th, 2004 12:08 pm (UTC)
Heh... they could have waited, actually. People who care about the real world don't let television be their source of news anyway.
frobisher
Nov. 13th, 2004 10:54 pm (UTC)
Apparently I was unclear. They should have announced his death. They then went on to do a fairly lengthy recap of his activities over the last however many years that could probably have waited five minutes.

That, of course, is just my opinion. It was their decision and if I would have done it differently, so what? The fact that people have been concerned enough to actually make a fuss over it is fairly ridiculous.
maddening
Nov. 14th, 2004 07:05 am (UTC)
I wasn't attacking you personally in any way at all. Sorry if it came off that way.I was saying that I've seen the "they should have waiting to announce it" argument in a lot of places and I think it's a sad statement.

I think what happened *was* just a short announcement anyway, but with lead in bumpers, music, the actual announcement, the need to repeat it four times, then the music, lead out bumpers, and probably a commercial thrown in for good measure, they would have missed the end of the show anyway.

I'm more talking about the overall frustration that a TV show could ever be more important than breaking world news.
frobisher
Nov. 14th, 2004 01:23 pm (UTC)
On that we can certainly agree. Also, no offence taken.
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