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Jun. 24th, 2001

Men who consistently make promises.
and then consistently break them
are the reason women can't be nice.
You wonder why they don't trust you.
You wonder what you did that was so wrong..
you, unfortunately, are a member of your gender.
sorry.
that's your crime.
and every day there's more and more proof for the prejudice.
and a lil less reason to trust.


I really hate that these men keep doing this.
Not to me.
heh.. I don't trust any of them in the first place.


But they always find someone to trust them.
and they always let that someone down.


.... they're almost as bad as women...

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bightchee
Jun. 23rd, 2001 09:59 pm (UTC)
:::sings::: I'm so vain......
....I probably think this post is about me.
ragdoll13
Jun. 23rd, 2001 10:16 pm (UTC)
Re: :::sings::: I'm so vain......
Yep, that's pretty vain.
starsailor71
Jun. 23rd, 2001 10:26 pm (UTC)
Gender bashing is bullshit!
Is there really no wonder that any line of real communication is fucked?

There are petty little mind-game-trippin' manipulative jerks on both sides. They are popularly known as "players", or "playas" if you watch too much Jerry Springer and listen to that rap shit.

I don't trust liars whether they are male, female, gay, straight, bi, or bent.
maddening
Jun. 23rd, 2001 11:03 pm (UTC)
Re: Gender bashing is bullshit!
Excuse you.
I wasn't 'gender bashing', you freaking reactionary.
Read a lil more closely.
There are lines between the lines and you missed them. I was actually talking about a specific person, incident and time. I was talking TO a specific person about a specific incident about a specific time. I forgot that I have to be fucking PC and all organic and animal friendly and kind to the environment and lets love everyone in my own damned journal. PARDON the indescretion.
I'm not feeling particularly nice this evening and I'm not feeling particularly open to debate.
I posted something in my journal.
tada.
I appreciate your opinion.
sure.
But you're wrong about what I said. And I don't appreciate that.
Your definition of a player is wrong. A player is not just a mind game user. A player is someone who's out for theirs and theirs alone and USUALLY use persuasion and panache to get it... but not always.
You'll notice that when I wrote that, I NEVER SAID that they were all liars and DESERVED the derision and mistrust. I said that certain members of their gender created a climate of mistrust and 'that is their crime'.. just being male. They're persecuted for it. for 'the crime' of being male.
I WAS EXPRESSING SYMPATHY.
and when I said that *I* don't trust them that's because I don't particularly trust anyone. And I've never been given a reason to out and out trust the vast majority of the men I've met.
You may have been raised in a beaver cleaver world full of kind hearted and trustworthy men, but I wasn't. You try living my life and then seeing where it fucking gets you when it comes to feeling warm and friendly toward a group that has, in your history, done NOTHING but maim you.

When I say "these men" I mean THE SPECIFIC ONES I AM TALKING ABOUT.


and the most telling thing, Man who had to yell at me in my journal, is the last line WHEN I PUT THEM IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS WOMEN...
they're equal.
both genders are full of lying, ignorant, hurtful, spiteful, greedy, shit heads who rarely deserve air and certainly don't deserve respect.


I'm glad you don't trust liars.
good for you.
starsailor71
Jun. 24th, 2001 01:07 am (UTC)
Whoa there, Miss Madgirl... gunpowder in your espresso?
"Excuse you." = sentence incomplete, please try again.

You're barkin' up the wrong tree, chica.

I was only making a comment to your recent LJ post... not being reactionary, PC, or any such label. How was I to telepathically realize that you were speaking to a specific person?

Just a harmless statement of *my* opinion which has come from *my* experience.

"I forgot that I have to be fucking PC and all organic and animal friendly and kind to the environment and lets love everyone in my own damned journal."

Now, where on earth did you get that half-baked notion. Chill on the aggressive talk and value judgements, they lead to psoriasis and hemorrhoids of the mouth... and boils on your nose.

"You may have been raised in a beaver cleaver world full of kind hearted and trustworthy men, but I wasn't. You try living my life and then seeing where it fucking gets you when it comes to feeling warm and friendly toward a group that has, in your history, done NOTHING but maim you."

Hardly. I was abused. Savagely beaten on numerous occasions and nastier things that I refuse to mention here. Thankfully, the abuse didn't come from my father. He was a good man. You might want to try talking in a civil manner with me. I can be a good friend to have. You see, *I've been there*! Talking down to me like I am your little dog to kick around will get you nowhere real fast with me. The choice is yours.

Yes, I got it the first time. I noticed that little tidbit where you said that men are almost as fucked up as women... that gave me a good laugh *with* you. My observation was not intended as yelling at you. I WAS YELLING WITH YOU!!!

Got it??? GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

David

ragdoll13
Jun. 24th, 2001 04:17 am (UTC)
Re: Whoa there, Miss Madgirl... gunpowder in your espresso?
This is Holly's livejournal. Post at your own risk.
maddening
Jun. 24th, 2001 11:07 am (UTC)
Re: Whoa there, Miss Madgirl... gunpowder in your espresso?
And this really wasn't the way to reply back again. Despite the fact that it's the next day and I'm in a much nicer mood, I can say that your original *comment* still sounds like an argument. *Very* badly done if you were somehow agreeing with me as there is not a single tiny bit of an agreeing tone there.
Don't give me grammar lessons in my own forum. You'll notice on my regular day to day journal I don't really bubble over in the the correct speech arena. It's a place for me to but down thoughts. Yes, dear, even the ones that aren't complete sentences.
You might want to calm down too, dear, as talking to *me* in the tone you're using... your worldy... patting the little girl on the head tone... won't be put up with.
But I think we've pretty much exhausted the chest puffing, hmm?


Basically... if you're going to agree with me.. heh... you need to actually make it clear that that's what you're doing. I've seen you post in other people's journals. You are usually almost *too* clear and defined and nice and good and so forth. But you pop up in mine and expect me to be able to figure out that you *yelling* something that seemed contradictory with the lil mister yuck face on it was somehow an *agreement*... hmmm...


I think you're overestimating my psychic abilities.
::shrug::
don't scream anymore, please, okay?
starsailor71
Jun. 24th, 2001 08:23 pm (UTC)
Ahhh... fageddabouddit!
OK... truce... fine, then. This is obviously going nowhere.

Moving forward peacefully...

David
punkalicia
Jun. 24th, 2001 03:16 am (UTC)
Re: Gender bashing is bullshit!
geez holly, you sure know what rocks to flip over.

and don't forget the most important thing about men: penises.

and yes, this whole post was simply so i could say penis over and over again in *your* journal.

penis.

penis is my new fnord.
maddening
Jun. 24th, 2001 11:08 am (UTC)
Re: Gender bashing is bullshit!
you only said it 4 times...
NO MATCH FOR ME!
Bwahahahahha
frobisher
Jun. 24th, 2001 10:29 pm (UTC)
Re: Gender bashing is bullshit!
None of the penii mentioned yet appear to be ENORMOUS.

Just sayin'
punkalicia
Jun. 25th, 2001 09:23 am (UTC)
Re: Gender bashing is bullshit!
well dear, that's because none of them are yours...
frobisher
Jun. 25th, 2001 11:36 am (UTC)
Re: Gender bashing is bullshit!
Are you saying that my... friend is being ostracized?
punkalicia
Jun. 25th, 2001 11:40 am (UTC)
Re: Gender bashing is bullshit!
no, i'm saying we're talking about average penii - and that we would never wish to slight the EP by grouping it with them.

the EP is in a category by itself - and shouldn't be taken in vain - as we are doing with the average penii

(Anonymous)
Jun. 25th, 2001 04:23 pm (UTC)
PEOPLE

suck

get over it

and

have a nice life

;p

*ahem* class dis

missed!
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